Early & loud riser

[mtoy]

Here's my second problem - Link sleeps in his crate in my son's room. He goes in fine, sleeps all night (and dry now that we figured out the water thing). My husband gets up at 5:15 to get ready for work. Our bedroom is on the opposite side of the house so Link usually doesn't hear him until my husband goes into the kitchen to make his lunch and eat breakfast. Then Link starts to yelp and bark. My son ignores Link, along with my other son in the next room. I don't hear Link on the other side of the house. My husband gets steamed because of the yelping. It doesn't help much that the first thing DH does when he gets to the kitchen is he lets Millie out and then feeds her (so Link hears the food). Then DH comes and yells at me to get Link. :ARG: On the weekends Link sleeps until maybe 6:00 and does the same thing, before anyone gets up.

I don't want to get up at 5:30 every weekday morning. Also, I don't want to cater to a yelping dog. I know he's hungry and needs to pee, but he needs to quiet down first.

I'm thinking that feeding Millie first thing is a problem, so maybe DH should hold off on that (I could feed both dogs when I get up (6:10 on school days)) and we should ignore Link until he quiets down? Oh, and the same cattle prod/e-collar for DH?:TONGUE:

[MrsGrace]

So, to summarize...

Everyone in the house that is trying to sleep, IGNORES the yelping dog... but for the person who is awake and up, he gets annoyed??

You're right, hold off on feeding the one dog, and tell the other yipper to suck it up, he's going off to work at least!! :TWITCHY: :WINK:

[corgimom]

So Link still does it on weekends even before Millie is fed?

[taflar]

My husband gets steamed because of the yelping. It doesn't help much that the first thing DH does when he gets to the kitchen is he lets Millie out and then feeds her (so Link hears the food). Then DH comes and yells at me to get Link. :ARG: On the weekends Link sleeps until maybe 6:00 and does the same thing, before anyone gets up.

It really isn't fair to feed one dog and let her out and not Link. He doesn't understand that he can't go out and be fed too. Why can't your hubby let him out at least and then put him back to bed with a cookie?

Peggy

[corgimom]

mtoy,

Why can't Millie just wait to eat in the morning - what would she do if hubby just got himself ready and left - would she go back to bed and wait until you got up.

Maybe it won't matter because even if Millie is not fed, Link will hear your hubby with his own dishes and will still want out.

[Penutsma]

I agree! Let both dogs out at the same time for their pee break (I assume you have a fenced yard). Then when they both come back in, either feed both of them or put both of them back in their crates until you get up to feed. This is so totally unfair to you or your sons! Someone needs to take some adult responsibility here for his actions in the am!

[CorgiMum]

I don't want to get up at 5:30 every weekday morning. Also, I don't want to cater to a yelping dog.

Could you or your husband take the them out to pee, and then go back to bed?

Because Montrose now need two sets of human hands to help with her potty we all get up at 6.30 or so, when the dogs have been out, my husband goes back to bed on the days he isn't going to work. I then feed both dogs and can go back to bed it I wish.

[glencorgi]

So, to summarize...

Everyone in the house that is trying to sleep, IGNORES the yelping dog... but for the person who is awake and up, he gets annoyed??

The adult dog gets fed and let out and leaving the PUPPY to yelp and carry on? :ARG:

Hubby either needs to let out both dogs in the morning and feed IF he wants to continue feeding the adult OR leave both dogs alone until the next wave gets up.

Debbie

[mtoy]

Ok, I got DH on the same page with me - no letting Millie out or anything until someone gets Link up (either my son or me). It shouldn't be a problem with Millie, sometimes she doesn't even want to get up until later. That's the plan for tomorrow, we have to work on the yelping too, and plan some more. Link has suddenly grown very quickly, and his energy jumped too, just this week. He is growing up!

Looking back I see it looks like I'm married to a bloody ogre! My husband normally isn't such a monster :TWITCHY: but his project at work is a holy terror right now and he's under a lot of stress. He leaves at 6 am, gets home by 8 pm, and is in bed by 9:30. What a drag.+SAD+

[MVons]

My sympathies on your husband's work schedule. I'm amazed he bothered with Millie. Maybe he can get a little more sleep with less prep time to get out the door.

Your son sleeps through Link? I would love to put the puppy in my son's room but he needs his sleep to do well in school and he is doing well. So my trick will be bringing the puppy into our room when hubby is already asleep and hoping that the puppy won't awake when he gets up at 3am. Though I am well aware I might be doing a puppy pee run at that hour and head back to bed. Then I will live for the weekends to have uninterrupted sleep. SO glad we are getting the puppy after school is out so the 6am alarm will not be going off.

I need to savor these two weeks of sleep.

Thanks for the heads up about the energy level and what worked in the beginning sleep wise or rising time can change.

Also note, even when a senior dog has lost a lot of hearing, they hear that food door or container opening clear across the house (Pepper). I do hope that is Link's concern. I can just see him tomorrow morning listening to your husband, waiting for the sound of Millie being fed, and waiting, and waiting. He might have a yelp thinking he missed it.

Merrie

[mtoy]

:ARG: Where's that 2x4/water bottle/e-collar for my husband????

He got up this morning, everything was quiet, HE LET MILLIE OUTSIDE, Link started to yelp. He wasn't supposed to let her out. For Pete's sake, she can "hold it" until 9 am on the weekends (not that we always sleep that late and certainly not since Linky came to stay), she can hold it until I get up just after 6. What the heck am I to do with him???? DH, not Link.

Maybe a "white noise" maker in my son's room would do it for Link?

[Dillydoodle]

geez, what happened? did hubby forget? try to leave him a sticky note to remind him not to get millie up, or tell him that if he does forget and gets millie up that he has to get link up too... if he has to be responsible for both he might just say forget it and leave them both alone until you get up to take care of them...
Emilie

[mtoy]

Your son sleeps through Link? I would love to put the puppy in my son's room but he needs his sleep to do well in school and he is doing well.

I am constantly amazed at what my son can sleep through, in a word, ANYTHING. Totally different from me.

Thanks for the heads up about the energy level and what worked in the beginning sleep wise or rising time can change.

It took me by surprise. And I take responsibility for some of the problems of late, too. I think once Link was seen as potty trained we relaxed about letting him wander around the house. Suddenly he's acting like he owns the joint. Wrong! Right now he's on a leash, tethered to me, behaving nicely. Otherwise his after breakfast routine had become "getting into and chewing anything and everything".

Also note, even when a senior dog has lost a lot of hearing, they hear that food door or container opening clear across the house (Pepper). I do hope that is Link's concern. I can just see him tomorrow morning listening to your husband, waiting for the sound of Millie being fed, and waiting, and waiting. He might have a yelp thinking he missed it.

Another amazement. Men, kids, dogs... they sure have selective hearing, don't they?

[Jespah]

I was just wondering why Link and Millie sleep in different places? I am just curious. I treat my two the same and they are together at night - with me - I am on my own, so it is different than a family.

[corgimom]

:ARG: Where's that 2x4/water bottle/e-collar for my husband????

Not a water bottle, a squirt gun is best, it goes farther:LAUGH:


What the heck am I to do with him???? DH, not Link.

Well, get up 15 minutes before him and go into the kitchen "unseen" and when he comes down and decides to "forget" and let Millie out, that is when the squirt gun will come in handy:LAUGH:

You know husbands, they are creatures of habit and it takes a while for them to re-learn things:TWITCHY:

[mtoy]

Millie is 10 years old and has never had a crate. When we first got her as a puppy she was gated in the kitchen. Now she has the run of the house, and has a bed in the family room area. She normally sleeps there but is allowed to sleep anywhere. Link has a crate, that is in my son's room at night. During the day I've been moving it (it's a plastic travel crate) to the kitchen area. I'm going to get a folding wire crate for the kitchen area though. Or, should I have Link sleep in the kitchen area in his crate? I often wonder this... Our kitchen/dining/family area is all open now (we remodeled). We cannot gate anyone in the kitchen now as it has 3 openings and one is 10 or 12 feet wide.

Should they sleep together (Link in crate, Millie in bed) in the same area? I think Millie would like a soft sided crate but I think Link would chew it. He chews her bed now if I don't pull it up during the day.

I do try to treat them equally with everything else, when I can (Millie doesn't like or need walks as much as Link, so he gets more). I feed them at the same time, treats get given the same...but Link gets some training (with treats) that Millie doesn't.

[Jespah]

I don't know if there are any right answers to your questions. My feelings are that they should be in the same room to sleep. For bonding reasons and so that one dog doesn't think they are being treated differently, perhaps challenging the natural order of their "pack". It could casue behaviour problems in the future - who knows. I like my dogs to be in the same room as me - I'm the boss, so if they hear something, or are spooked and I am okay, then they know they are. I find they sleep through the night, no problems.

Just my thoughts.

Deb

[CorgiMum]

:ARG: Where's that 2x4/water bottle/e-collar for my husband????

He got up this morning, everything was quiet, HE LET MILLIE OUTSIDE, Link started to yelp. He wasn't supposed to let her out. For Pete's sake, she can "hold it" until 9 am on the weekends (not that we always sleep that late and certainly not since Linky came to stay), she can hold it until I get up just after 6. What the heck am I to do with him???? DH, not Link.

Maybe a "white noise" maker in my son's room would do it for Link?
It seems that the solution is for you to get up when your husband does and then you can let both dogs out.:SMILE:

[mtoy]

I don't know if there are any right answers to your questions. My feelings are that they should be in the same room to sleep. For bonding reasons and so that one dog doesn't think they are being treated differently, perhaps challenging the natural order of their "pack". It could casue behaviour problems in the future - who knows. I like my dogs to be in the same room as me - I'm the boss, so if they hear something, or are spooked and I am okay, then they know they are. I find they sleep through the night, no problems.

Just my thoughts.

Deb

I've wondered about the sleeping arrangements since before Link even got here. My son REALLY wanted Link in his room, so we let him. But, kids being what they are, he hasn't been as *responsible* for the pup as he promised to be, so he can lose that privilege. I do want what's best for the dogs (and us) in the long run. I'm letting Millie "correct" Link as she sees fit, and trying not to let Link hassle Millie too much, as puppies will. I'm hoping they will figure out their places in the pack, never forgetting that *I* am boss.

[Dillydoodle]

Both my dogs sleep in individual crates about 9 feet apart on the same wall... and in our bedroom so that they can hear us and we can hear them... it has worked out well for us.

Emilie

[sutulu]

I am a closet insomniac at times. If the dogs sleep on the bed, I don't sleep well and with the tossing and turning, they don't sleep well. So about 6 months ago I got them back to their crates. Very little fuss at the time and they are back to running into their crates at bedtime.

But every now and then I give them their night-night biscuit and not close their crate doors. I thought maybe one of them would eventually find a spot in the room and not climb up on the bed. But nooo.... they both have to climb up on the bed. Tuck gets on one side and snuggles up to me and Lulu gets on the other and snuggles up to me. So I am pinned!

But last night, I forgot to close the windows and when I went to bed the room was feezing. So it was a good night to be pinned between 2 corgis! I was toasty all night long!

[ColColt]

It's always nice to be loved, Susan.:CUTE:

[The Chipmunk's Mom]

Susan:

My two sleep with us and one Chip normally lays his head on my legs and Dale lays with his head on my feet. When Dale was neutered, he was confined to the xpen (Chip slept beside the xpen with Dale) and then off the bed for almost all week (both slept in under the bed) and did I ever miss them. Last night both finally slept back on the bed and I woke to 4:00 am wrestling match on my head again. :EEK:

[Penutsma]

Last night both finally slept back on the bed and I woke to 4:00 am wrestling match on my head again. :EEK:


Don't ya just love it! :LAUGH:

[MVons]

I'll never forget the night that Pepper showed us she was a senior and before we got the cushy bed for the TV area, she headed to her crate in our room at 10pm. She gave us that look, well if you aren't ready for bed, I AM! We followed her in to make sure she was fine and she just snuggled in for her sleep.

Once we got the cushy bed, she was so sound a sleeper at her age that once she slept through me getting ready for bed. I forgot about her too as it was past my bedtime (like it is now). What a fright in the morning when she wasn't in her crate! I ran out to the livingroom and she was curled up.

Merrie

[MissGambler's+Mojo'sMommy]

MVONS, you made me laugh in remembrance. I can have some crazy hours, and pull a lot of all-nighters working, and I can still remember when I had to go looking for Miss Gambler that first time she put herself to bed, and I do mean bed. I found her propped up on the pillows, she was tired of waiting for me and had decided that she was a big girl. I almost convinced myself that she was sick, but she was just sleepy. Now, she just gives me that look as she's walking away, telling me that I know where I can find her.

[mtoy]

Mr. Linky was awake and yelping before anyone got up this morning. I had planned on getting up w/DH this morning and went to bed early (for me, at least) but I have trouble getting to sleep. I am so sleep deprived. "NO:":

[corgimom]

Mr. Linky was awake and yelping before anyone got up this morning. I had planned on getting up w/DH this morning and went to bed early (for me, at least) but I have trouble getting to sleep. I am so sleep deprived. "NO:":

MToy, would he possibly do better if his crate were in your room rather than your sons; maybe yours and your husbands presence would be more calming to him and he would be willing to sleep longer in the morning.

[mtoy]

MToy, would he possibly do better if his crate were in your room rather than your sons; maybe yours and your husbands presence would be more calming to him and he would be willing to sleep longer in the morning.

I've been considering that, but DH's alarm goes off at 5:10 am (the horror!), mine at 6:10 am but only when there is school, in the summer and school vacations I usually wake up around 7. Link wouldn't sleep through DH getting up.

I put darkening curtains on my son's windows and put an air cleaner in there for him to run at nght to help drown out noise. It's working! For 3 mornings now I've been waking Link up before he starts yelping. I've also been getting up earlier, just to make sure I beat him. I want him to get used to me waking him, so he can just (hopefully) lay back and wait. I'll start waiting a bit later each morning.

[corgimom]

I've been considering that, but DH's alarm goes off at 5:10 am (the horror!), mine at 6:10 am but only when there is school, in the summer and school vacations I usually wake up around 7. Link wouldn't sleep through DH getting up.

I put darkening curtains on my son's windows and put an air cleaner in there for him to run at nght to help drown out noise. It's working! For 3 mornings now I've been waking Link up before he starts yelping. I've also been getting up earlier, just to make sure I beat him. I want him to get used to me waking him, so he can just (hopefully) lay back and wait. I'll start waiting a bit later each morning.

My hubby's alarm goes off at 4:45!! - he goes to work out every morning before he goes to work - and naturally I hear him get up, and try to sleep for a bit more, but I am usually always up by 5:30 a.m. - Cody sleeps in the spare bedroom(in a crate) right across from our room. He is very good about waiting until I come and get him - but in his earlier days, when he was Links age, he would whine when he heard my husband up. I think with age, it has helped and the fact that his crate is now upstairs with us. I used to keep it on the main floor. Good news that you found a solution for Link and I bet with him maturing he will also get better at waiting longer in the morning.

[MVons]

MToy, What a great idea to use "white noise". So glad it is working out.

Merrie

[mtoy]

I bet with him maturing he will also get better at waiting longer in the morning.

Yes, I do believe that will happen too, thankfully.

[Fluffypants]

Great news mtoy! Every minute of sleep is precious! :CUTE: