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Lauren
06-19-2007, 02:59 PM
I'm so proud of my boy! It isn't the most challenging or intricate trick, but it's a big milestone for Frodo. I have had a very difficult time learning what makes Frodo work his best/hardest and to help him understand the easiest. I don't have these problems with Izzy or Mollie, I can think about a trick which I want to teach them and I can easily map out how they will learn it the best or what will not work for them, it's not that easy with Frodo.

Anywho, these are the results of only 3, 5 minutes sessions!!!!!!!! Squeeeeeee!
Click me to see trick (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ-Cg8QR1MM)

Oh, and he doesn't have any experience with weave poles, etc, it was from scratch. End brag. :BIGGRIN"

Merlincorgi
06-19-2007, 03:07 PM
Looks great! Good job figuring out what would work best for him!

LoveMySadie
06-19-2007, 03:24 PM
So HOW did you do it????

Leslie

Jespah
06-19-2007, 03:36 PM
Excellent job Lauren!! You are obviously a great trainer, smart enough to know he doesn't learn like the others and patient enough to teach him!! Maube you should talk to CorgiMum about freestyle dance - the way he's intently looking at you reminds me of Dylan dancing with Barbara! Maybe Frodo's a natural!

Deb

Dillydoodle
06-19-2007, 04:34 PM
Lauren,
Frodo did GREAT!!! awesome job, that is a pretty cool trick..so now you have to tell us how you trained him to do it... awesome job .. and i agree with Deb , this is a good start for training to do freestyle with him...

Emilie

ZdogZ
06-19-2007, 04:51 PM
Yay, Frodo! We tried to make a sign but my pups didn't cooperate! That's really cool, Lauren!

ColColt
06-19-2007, 05:33 PM
Excellent job Lauren!! You are obviously a great trainer, smart enough to know he doesn't learn like the others and patient enough to teach him!! Maube you should talk to CorgiMum about freestyle dance - the way he's intently looking at you reminds me of Dylan dancing with Barbara! Maybe Frodo's a natural!

Deb

I thought the same thing, Deb. He looks like he has the ingrained talent and for sure Lauren, I'd give that some thought. I think he'd do great.

Lauren
06-19-2007, 05:50 PM
Looks great! Good job figuring out what would work best for him!

Thank you *does extravagant bow...and falls*

So HOW did you do it????
Do you mean how I got him to work better for me/learn faster or do you mean just this trick?

Excellent job Lauren!! You are obviously a great trainer, smart enough to know he doesn't learn like the others and patient enough to teach him!! Maube you should talk to CorgiMum about freestyle dance - the way he's intently looking at you reminds me of Dylan dancing with Barbara! Maybe Frodo's a natural!

LOL, Frodo has mad skillz! :LAUGH: I have been thinking about freestyle with him, but we have a lot more work to do around other dogs/people before we can start something like that, although I'll continue to teach him wierd tricks :SMILE:

Lauren,
Frodo did GREAT!!! awesome job, that is a pretty cool trick..so now you have to tell us how you trained him to do it... awesome job .. and i agree with Deb , this is a good start for training to do freestyle with him...

Thank you! *attempts another bow*

I think I'm going to teach Frodo to bow next :TWITCHY:

Thought I'd share this while I'm on the subject, we just had a bad t-storm which means computer goes off and the corgi fun starts. I did another training session and was going to teach Frodo the swing finish but he thought it'd be more fun to go between my legs, so we have a new trick.

This was filmed about 15-20 minutes ago and is his first, 5 minute training session (I think he did it 2 or 3 times before I turned on the camera). Turn up your speakers and you can hear the thunder, it rumbled for almost the whole thing!
Click here for trick #2 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=B8mg8xIZdY4)

Lauren

Lauren
06-19-2007, 05:55 PM
We tried to make a sign but my pups didn't cooperate!

:LAUGH: I forgive you!

I thought the same thing, Deb. He looks like he has the ingrained talent and for sure Lauren, I'd give that some thought. I think he'd do great.

Ah, peer pressure! lol

Dillydoodle
06-19-2007, 06:31 PM
Lauren, he is sooo darn cute doing his "swing"... He looks like he is really having fun. Great video clip ...

Emilie

Lauren
06-19-2007, 07:18 PM
Thanks Emilie, I like to think that he has fun, I know I sure do!

LaRositaMonita
06-19-2007, 07:19 PM
Too cute! Thanks for sending that along :)

PS - Your thunderstorm just got here! *L*

Lauren
06-19-2007, 07:23 PM
Your Welcome :D
Have fun with those T-storms :TWITCHY:

CorgiMum
06-19-2007, 09:04 PM
Lauren you are a fabulous trainer!!!

I am really impressed, doing the weaves, that was the very frist trick that I taught Dylan for freestyle, and that figures 8 is wonderful!

That is exactly what freestye is all about, a serious of tricks, that is suitable for the dog's abilities, (and the trainer 's :WINK: ) set to music at a pace what works for both of you. More please!!!!

mtoy
06-19-2007, 09:29 PM
Yay Frodo! His attention to you is wonderful, he didn't react at all at the thunder! Very cool!:WINK:

corgimom
06-19-2007, 09:42 PM
You are a talented, nice young lady, too bad we don't live closer to you, my son is your age.:LAUGH: Way to go Frodo!

Lauren
06-19-2007, 10:02 PM
Lauren you are a fabulous trainer!!!

I am really impressed, doing the weaves, that was the very frist trick that I taught Dylan for freestyle, and that figures 8 is wonderful!

That is exactly what freestye is all about, a serious of tricks, that is suitable for the dog's abilities, (and the trainer 's ) set to music at a pace what works for both of you. More please!!!!

The trainer's ability...Bwahaha! We may have just a *wee* bit of trouble there :TWITCHY:

Is it something that can be done totally on your own? There are no resources around here for this sort of thing so I'd be doing it on my own, kinda like all the other dog stuff I do, lol.

Is it supposed to be more hand signals than spoken? In most of the vids I watched on YouTube there seemed to be a lot more hand signals (the reason I ask is because Frodo does better with spoken signals, although he can do both if need be).

So, any suggestions for more tricks (both Mollie and Izzy can do left/right spins, maybe I'll try that)?

More please!!!!
Sorry, Frodo's out for the night. Apparently it's hard work being a video star :rolleyes:

Thanks mtoy, I've been around dogs that are scared of thunder/fireworks and it scared/saddened me at how frightened they were so as soon as the puppies came home we made stuff like that really fun! When the thunderstorms come out so do the treats and games! LOL, so I can't take credit for that focus, they aren't even phased by them, show him a squirell and it's all over! :CHATTERBOX:

You are a talented, nice young lady, too bad we don't live closer to you, my son is your age. Way to go Frodo!
+HELLOOO+ LOL, just kidding, I'll try and contain myself I promise!
Thank you!

CorgiMum
06-19-2007, 10:16 PM
Is it something that can be done totally on your own? There are no resources around here for this sort of thing so I'd be doing it on my own, kinda like all the other dog stuff I do, lol.

Is it supposed to be more hand signals than spoken? In most of the vids I watched on YouTube there seemed to be a lot more hand signals (the reason I ask is because Frodo does better with spoken signals, although he can do both if need be).

So, any suggestions for more tricks (both Mollie and Izzy can do left/right spins, maybe I'll try that)?

Thank you!

Yes, you certainly can do it all on your own. Videos, books, DVDs, we started with DVDs.

There are even mail in video competitions! You never have to perform live if you don't want to.

Tricks, how about, back ups, backward throughs, and rollover, walking backwards side by side, those are a few.

Voice is much better, hand signals don't get you points. Chat away as much as you like! The music will be loud.

MVons
06-19-2007, 10:41 PM
This is wonderful to see training in progress. I'm impressed with the camera placement. My son said "COOL" to the videos. He is busy reading the training book for our puppy and this type of fun is too hard to visualize without the video. Thanks.

Merrie

manymuddypaws
06-20-2007, 08:02 AM
Great Job Lauren, I agree with everyone else- Frodo was born to be a
"SUPA STAR!!! "
hehe....
the fun is in finding a song you like!! Wicca's theme song is the Malcom In the Middle song....

some more trick ideas for you...

-schutuzhund about turns always look really flashy- you do a regular about turn but the dog goes left and infront and then behind you and into heel position. Not sure if that makes sense...I will search youtube for a vid. I don't have a camera...
-Switching away from you while heeling- you move forward dog spins to their left and back into heel.

looks like you and Frodo are having a great time! Keep the videos coming!!!

-amanda

-found a video for you-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPWzY04ek4g
she does it a few times...right at the beginning and later one...

Lauren
06-20-2007, 08:18 AM
Yes, you certainly can do it all on your own. Videos, books, DVDs, we started with DVDs.

There are even mail in video competitions! You never have to perform live if you don't want to.

Tricks, how about, back ups, backward throughs, and rollover, walking backwards side by side, those are a few.

Voice is much better, hand signals don't get you points. Chat away as much as you like! The music will be loud.

I may look into some DVD's/books for my birthday. Do you know of any sites that have a listing of rules/requirements?

Thanks, I think I may try rollover with him, that's what Izzy is learning right now anyhow :)

Thanks Merrie, I enjoy using the video, especially for obedience work, so that I can see exactly what the dog/myself is doing wrong or right since I don't have a trainer.

Wicca's theme song is the Malcom In the Middle song....
LOL, that's great! :LAUGH:

-schutuzhund about turns always look really flashy- you do a regular about turn but the dog goes left and infront and then behind you and into heel position. Not sure if that makes sense...I will search youtube for a vid. I don't have a camera...
I'm trying to picture it, but I'm confuzzled :p

-Switching away from you while heeling- you move forward dog spins to their left and back into heel.
Okay, I do understand that one! Thanks, I'll have to remember those!

CorgiMum
06-20-2007, 08:41 AM
Another move, heel, dog on the left, dog spins in a circle turning left ending up back in the heel positiion. Trainer does a circle turning to the right. So, counter circles, then continue heeling.

And one more, dog heeling on the left, turns left and goes behind the trainer ending up in the 'side' heeling position, which is on the trainer's right, continue moving forward.

Check out the Blue Ribbon Club forum, there are links there.

And different freestyle organizations have different rules.

Lauren
06-20-2007, 09:14 AM
Thanks Amanda, that does look really spiffy!

I have seen the counter circles one done, that second one doesn't sound like it would be too complicated to start with, I may try that one first!

Check out the Blue Ribbon Club forum, there are links there.
Will do, thanks again! I'm getting excited +WHOHO+

MissGambler's+Mojo'sMommy
06-20-2007, 09:55 AM
You really do seem to have a natural there, and she happily concentrates on your commands. There's a lot of respect there, from both of you, great job! As for the thunder, I totally agree, when they have their "issues" with noises and such, they are miserable, so kudos to you for recogninzing this and making them happier.

Fluffypants
06-20-2007, 12:48 PM
+REDAWARD+ Frodo is a natural freestyler! You are doing great work with him!!!!

Lauren
06-20-2007, 12:57 PM
Thank you MGM :SMILE: .

As for the thunder, I totally agree, when they have their "issues" with noises and such, they are miserable,
Definitally, my aunt's dog hides under the bed and shakes during thunderstorms :(

Thanks Jessica! I am officially banning Frodo from this thread, his head is getting huge! :BIGGRIN"

MVons
06-20-2007, 10:24 PM
Amanda, the youtube Rally Obedience - I was amazed how many treats the dog gets. I mean, if that was kibble that was half the amount the dog would eat for a meal. Is that the normal consumption during training? As I kick myself for forgetting to add the treats to the Fosters & Smith order, but I have corgimum's cheese treat recipe waiting to be made.

Merrie

Dillydoodle
06-21-2007, 04:17 AM
I dont treat that often with Dillon, and the pieces are TINY - like imagine a piece of long grain rice, that is about the size of what he has, so an hour long class he gets about 1 1/2 ounces of treats... and i do take that into consideration when it comes time for dinner... but often when he is working, he is burning more calories than he would on a normal day so i dont have to cut back too much with him...

Emilie

manymuddypaws
06-21-2007, 07:00 AM
I didn't watch the whole clip- but yes she did treat often and sometimes for things I wouldn't have- crooked sits etc. But yes, typically my dogs will get half a meal or no meal on training days- depending on what we are doing. Also sometimes I will use their breakfast for a training session- so they work for their food kibble by kibble....sounds mean, but it works great! And Emilie is very right- the treats should be small anyway...

-amanda

CorgiMum
06-21-2007, 08:31 AM
Also sometimes I will use their breakfast for a training session- so they work for their food kibble by kibble....sounds mean, but it works great! And Emilie is very right- the treats should be small anyway...
-amanda

It's not mean at all, IMO. I tend to hold back kibble, not just because of the weight factor, but then the dog can truely understand that he is 'working' for his meal. This came to light for me many years ago as Monty is a very soft dog, and it made her feel good to earn her food. Treats, dogs can view in a different way than their regular meals.

The optimum for any treats being used for training should be small enough that they do not need to be chewed by the dog, just swallowed. The 3 second rules applies. If you to not respond to a dog within 3 seconds, their minds can be somewhere else by then, and the 'connection' can be lost. Small pieces of cheese, chicken, hot dog etc. are good. Also, the reward should match the difficulty of the command as well during formal training.

Lauren
06-21-2007, 09:31 AM
Izzy works for all her kibble (Frodo is raw fed, that would get mighty messy :EEK: ) because a) she likes to work and b) I believe she will be on NILIF program for the rest of her life. I only use the kibble for review and then I use Natural Balance rolls for new stuff.

I do split it up throughout the day, Izzy get's fed 3 times a day (she's on a diet so I feed more, smaller meals) plus one session with NB roll, each lasting about 2-5 minutes. Frodo gets fed twice a day (raw) and has 2 sessions with NB roll. I don't have much of a life, but at least it keeps them entertained :CUTE:

disraeli ears
06-24-2007, 06:33 PM
Heehee...I just saw Frodo's trick. Pretty cool! He looks like he either really wants to make you happy or he really, really wants a treat. :WINK:

Lauren
06-24-2007, 07:48 PM
ROFL! :LAUGH:
I'd like to think the former, but I do believe it is a little of both...I hope! :CUTE: