Neighbor Seeking Possible Playdate

[ColColt]

It's 9:20 (EST) here so, before I hit the hay, I wondered what you all think about this. The other day I was out back picking up sticks and my next door neighbors wife meanders over with her Basset, who I've never seen out of the yard before. She didn't have a collar on so I asked why. I was told she was "allergic" to them!! That's a new one. I asked if she tried another material besides leather and she said it didn't matter it gave her a rash.

This is the same dog that I mentioned having nails about an inch and a half long. They actually curl under her paws and I know she can't walk well like that. I also asked what that place was on her rear back and was told it was from allergies. there was also places elsewhere but I didn't say anymore about that.

The neighbor asked when I was getting Bubba and that my fence looked good. I have a feeling she want Maggie(the basset) and Bubba to play together since Maggie lost her buddy of seven years (Grizzly, a chow that died some months back). I have some reservations about this because I'm not sure I want that. I've seen Maggie nibbling at her self in various places while in here yard and scratching to beat the band. I don't want Bubba catching whatever she has and definitely don't want him playingin that yard where Maggie has probably gotten fleas. Nor do I really want her over her for some of those critters to hitch a ride on him or deposit themselves on the grass(brown now, but still grass).

Am I being mean about this? I went to great lengths spraying nematodes in the yard twice to keep down any flea population and don't want any if there's none out back now. I really don't thing poor ol' Maggie has been taken care of and I'm leery of that so called allergy. Looks more like mange to me.

[corgimom]

When has that poor Basset hound seen a vet last? And I don't think it would be out of place for you to mention the length of the nails on that dog to her; is there a problem with her taking the dog to have someone trim them if she doesn't want to do them herself.

I have no idea how you will handle her wanting the basset to play with Bubba, but until that animal is checked out and treated, I would not want her near my dog either.
Are you going to use flea preventative on Bubba?

[Jane Austen]

David I don't think there is a mean bone in your body. Definitely do not allow Bubba near that mistreated dog. The poor thing! It is not the dog's fault, just it's owner that has been so ignorant.

[mtoy]

Just tell her that Bubba has a stubborn case of worms or something if she ever asks, or anything contagious. I wouldn't let my dog play with hers either. We have our hillbilly neighbor who leaves his Brittney Spaniel outside every single day. It barks nearly constantly when we're out there, except when I scream "SHUT UP" as loud as I can and glare at it. I'm the only person it listens to. Anyway, I'm always afraid our dogs will pick something up from him. Eeew.:SHOCKED:

[ColColt]

Lord only knows when she last saw a vet, Linda. I think part of Grizzly's problems was neglect and even though these are great neighbors, why they bought or was given dogs is a mystery to me. They are just yard ornaments. No one ever played with them and they've been here 24 years and I've been here 27. I never saw their former two dogs do anything but pace the yard. Nobody played with them either. They were fed, watered and maybe taken to the vet occasionally but, that's about it. I remember when Muffin and Amber (the former dogs) would be in the yard, which was 24/78, and one of the owners would drive up, they'd get so excited. They weren't even acknowledged as even being there.

Bubba will be on a flea preventative-probably Frontline. I don't like chemicals but neither do I want him to harbor fleas. I've put Flea Buster Rx on the carpet to take care of any he may come in contact with and sprayed the backyard. I also sprayed as much of the neighbors backyard as the hose would reach (he, he).

You're right, Jane. I do feel sorry for Maggie. She lost her partner and without a doubt,they were both neglected in many ways. She's never been physically or emotionally abused but it's just as bad to neglect their basic needs...like the nails and tripos to the vet. Whatever she has, I wouldn't stop until I knew for sure what it was and deal with it accordingly. The neighbor did say that she had some sort of shampoo they (meaning the vet I presume) gave them but it didn't help. I just feel for Maggie as I know she'd love to play and if I knew she wasn't as is, I'd like for her to come over. No way I'd let Bubba over there as I saw her even today out there in her yard nibbling on her back and scratching like there's no tomorrow. It's sad to me to have dogs just to have something in the yard. Maybe I can offer them my old bird bath if they want something in the yard. It doesn't require much maintenance or vet trips.

[ColColt]

Just tell her that Bubba has a stubborn case of worms or something if she ever asks, or anything contagious. I wouldn't let my dog play with hers either. We have our hillbilly neighbor who leaves his Brittney Spaniel outside every single day. It barks nearly constantly when we're out there, except when I scream "SHUT UP" as loud as I can and glare at it. I'm the only person it listens to. Anyway, I'm always afraid our dogs will pick something up from him. Eeew.:SHOCKED:

Good idea. I'd had to lie to her, though. It would be my luck Bubba would come down with something like that!! I suppose I'll just have to call a spade a spade if it comes down to it. I'd love to see Maggie have a playmate but, not in her current condition.

Well, got to call it a night. My precious eyes are telling me it's nite nite time and I'm working tomorrow.

[The Chipmunk's Mom]

When I took Chip & Dale to the vet's on Saturday the waiting room was full so rather then sit down with my boys, I took them into the reception area with the receptionist and stood there with them. I wasn't about to let them get around sick dogs and one big dog looked kind of ornery and all I could think of was Linda's MIL's dog so I completely understand where you are coming from. Mange is catching if that is what it is. Poor dog - some people just don't need dogs.

Oh by the way, no more crate for Bubba, he is sleeping beside the bed now. LOL

[MissGambler's+Mojo'sMommy]

I really like mtoy's idea, and I'm going to start using it. Miss Gambler is not the most social of dogs with people, and HATES other dogs, but that doesn't stop every owner and their dog, and their kid, from coming into her space. Yep, a really good excuse, something really gross and contagious, may just work. :TONGUE:

[taflar]

This is the same dog that I mentioned having nails about an inch and a half long. They actually curl under her paws and I know she can't walk well like that. I also asked what that place was on her rear back and was told it was from allergies. there was also places elsewhere but I didn't say anymore about that.

The neighbor asked when I was getting Bubba and that my fence looked good. I have a feeling she want Maggie (the basset) and Bubba to play together since Maggie lost her buddy of seven years (Grizzly, a chow that died some months back). I have some reservations about this because I'm not sure I want that. I've seen Maggie nibbling at her self in various places while in here yard and scratching to beat the band. I don't want Bubba catching whatever she has and definitely don't want him playingin that yard where Maggie has probably gotten fleas. Nor do I really want her over her for some of those critters to hitch a ride on him or deposit themselves on the grass (brown now, but still grass).

IMO, if the dog has spots in more places than one it does not have an allergy to a collar. Maybe an allergy to something it's eating. (Corn or wheat in the food would be a good place to start.) Or a contact dermatitis. Or an allerge to fleas. Or mange, or.... you get the idea.

Until or unless you know exactly what the dogs skin condition is I would not let your dog anywhere near hers.

As for the nails, you might mention that running and playing with nails that long could damage the feet and cut into the pads. (And well to be honest, just walking could do cause them to do that too.)

As for the shampoo, possibly they didn't use it as directed or as often. They usually have to be applied and let sit for 10 min. or so and repeated every three days or so. Doesn't sound like they'd be willing to bathe her that often.

You might ask what they feed her and mention it could be a food allergy. I'd bet she's getting a cheap grocery store food loaded with corn and/or wheat.

Also, hot spots, and other things which cause these type of spots, can be caused by allergies can develop or spread under a warm place like a collar. So she could have a worse break out there than on other places on her body. But I sincerly doubt she's allergic to collars. Her problem sounds more serious than that.

Peggy

[corgimom]

Oh by the way, no more crate for Bubba, he is sleeping beside the bed now. LOL


David, make room, I think you will have a furry bed partner soon. He's out of his crate and next to the bed, he can only go up from there.:SMILE:

[taflar]

David, make room, I think you will have a furry bed partner soon. He's out of his crate and next to the bed, he can only go up from there.

Just make sure he's housebroken before you eliminate the crate all together. He might feel more secure in it for the first few nights or week or so. Maybe let him sleep in it for awhile and then leave the door open and let him choose. Remember he's going to have a lot of changes and the crate might be familiar and safe to him.

Peggy

[ColColt]

Oh by the way, no more crate for Bubba, he is sleeping beside the bed now. LOL


I mentioned to her that I had bought him a new crate with side pads and one for the bottom and I also asked if she thought I should leave the gate open or closed. She said probably should just leave it closed for a while...at least until he gets use to everything. Then, she said, I might leave it open. At that point I'll let him decide. Could be just as you mentioned. He could just decide to sleep by the bed or in it!! I wouldn't care either way.:CUTE: The crate will stay in the bedroom whether he decides to sleep there or not. He needs a "haven" to go to when he wants to reflect on his life and get away for a bit.:CUTE:

Peggy, this poor dog has a place on her lower back, near the tail, about the size of a lemon and other places toward her upper leg where it attaches to the body that is totally "hairless". She has to have fleas as I've seen that hind leg going 350 mph scratching when she was in the back yard. I can see the whole yard from my deck (about 20 yards away). I saw her buddy, Grizzly the chow, doing the same thing before he died and had similar spots on him. My guess is they're feeding him something like Ol' Roy or Pedigree. These are not stupid people either. Both have Masters degrees-book sense but no common sense. I still don't understand whey they even have dogs.

[Dillydoodle]

If the first dog had these spots and now this dog does... i would not let Bubba anywhere near this dog. THe owner needs to get this dog to a vet to have it diagnosed properly. Having a dog (gus) with spots all over his body of lost hair and the one spot on his hind quarter that is the size of an orannge, I see the looks sometimes people will give him, and i immediately explain that he is not contageous this is an auto immune disorder. the difference is I have spent the time and the money taking my dog to specialists and vets for diagnosis , to rule out mange, mites, ringworm, and contageous skin conditions and even food allergies etc.

I feel for this basset, she should take that poor dog to the vet to get checked out. and there is no reason not to keep a dogs toenails from growing like that... she needs to either cut them herself, and that wont happen clearly, or she should bring the dog to the vet and have them do it, and now that the nails have completley curled like that she really does need to bring her to a vet so that it is done properly ( probably will need to be done little by little over time so that they dont cut the quick. )
Emilie

[The Chipmunk's Mom]

Bubba is housebroken. :SMILE:

[MissGambler's+Mojo'sMommy]

It sure sounds like Bubba has been waiting all this time for David. My bet is that David will not be making many complaining posts about Bubba. This ordeal also shows many good points for adopting an older dog.

[corgimom]

Just make sure he's housebroken before you eliminate the crate all together. He might feel more secure in it for the first few nights or week or so. Maybe let him sleep in it for awhile and then leave the door open and let him choose. Remember he's going to have a lot of changes and the crate might be familiar and safe to him.

Peggy

Peggy, I mentioned Bubba sleeping with David "in Fun", I think David will be able to determine when and if Bubba can sleep with him.

[The Chipmunk's Mom]

I am betting that Bubba curls right up next to David after a few days and David has good judgment on what is best for Bubba - they will be great friends.

[ColColt]

Rebecca seems to think he'll do that too, Bonnie. Fine by me!:CUTE:

[taflar]

Peggy, this poor dog has a place on her lower back, near the tail, about the size of a lemon and other places toward her upper leg where it attaches to the body that is totally "hairless". She has to have fleas as I've seen that hind leg going 350 mph scratching when she was in the back yard.

Yes, probably fleas, but other things can make a dog itch too. Alltergies usually come out as skin problems.

Peggy

[taflar]

Peggy, I mentioned Bubba sleeping with David "in Fun", I think David will be able to determine when and if Bubba can sleep with him.

I understood that and was commenting on David's post about Bubba not sleeping in a crate. I have nothing againist dogs sleeping next to the bed, on the bed, in bed with you or whatever.

My concern was if he was housebroken and the possibility of too many changes for him at once.

Peggy

[taflar]

I am betting that Bubba curls right up next to David after a few days and David has good judgment on what is best for Bubba - they will be great friends.

See my comment to the other post. I was NOT questioning David's judgement. Just making a comment on what I thought might be a concern for the dog. Since I have taken in many adult dogs as either additions to my family or as fosters.

Please read my posts in the spirit given and do not assume I'm always against everything you are all saying.

Sheesh!!!

Peggy (stressed out in Utah, with a DIL in the hospital! Maybe I should just quit posting?)

[ColColt]

Maybe a good flea combing before he comes in after play for the evening would be beneficial in keeping out the harem that could be there. I feel so sorry for this Basset but, neither do I want fleas in the house and intend on keeping them off Bubba as well. After all I've done to prevent that, I'm hoping it'll be no problem. If they're not in the yard and not on him, there's not going to be any in the house.

[bunnybutts]

Peggy (stressed out in Utah, with a DIL in the hospital! )

Peggy - hope your DIL is out of the hospital and better soon!

David,

I wouldnt let Bubba play with the "mangey" dog next door either!

[Fluffypants]

I agree - keep him away from that dog!

Maybe you can tell her owner that Bubba is made out of leather or nylon . . . so she will probably be allergic to him too . . . so let's just keep them separated!

Peggy - sorry to hear about your DIL. I hope she gets better soon!

[ColColt]

Two things I'm planning on never trying myself-cutting toenails and expressing anybody's anal glands!! That's something I won't mind paying for. I'll try to brush their teeth, clean their ears, give them a bath, brush them,clean their rear end, etc., but no toenails. I can't feel what they're feeling and just don't want to try it.

One thing's for sure, Bubba's certainly won't get out so long they're curling under. That's just plain laziness to me to not take care of your dog any better than that.